Last updated: May 13, 2014 10:01 pm
Russia moves to oust US from International Space Station
Russia is to deny the US use of the International Space Station beyond 2020 and will bar export of critical rocket engines to the US, in a move that has highlighted American dependence on Russian space technology.
Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s deputy prime minister, announced the measures in response to US sanctions against a series of Russian companies and officials over theUkraine crisis.
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The twin moves against the space and satellite programmes represent one high-tech niche in which Moscow believes it has leverage over the US.
Mr Rogozin pointed out that, following the US’s retirement of its space shuttle fleet amid National Aeronautics and Space Administration cuts in 2011, the US was no longer able to send astronauts to the station on its own.
“The Russian segment of the ISS can exist independently from the US one, but the US segment cannot exist independently from the Russian one,” Mr Rogozin said.
The effective ban on exports of MK-33 and RD-180 rocket motors could be of greater significance to the US. The RD-180 powers the Atlas rocket used by the United Launch Alliance joint venture between Boeingand Lockheed Martin which puts the US’s most sensitive military satellites into orbit.
Mr Rogozin said the exports could continue if the US gave guarantees that the motors would not be used to launch military satellites. But, given ULA’s critical role in the US’s military satellite programme, such guarantees look unlikely.
“At the moment, US national security launches are heavily dependent on access to the Russian engine,” Loren Thompson, an analyst at the Virginia-based Lexington Institute, said.
As Moscow’s stand-off with Ukraine escalated in recent months into the worst falling-out with the west since the Cold War, both US and Russian diplomats had noted that the two powers continued to “do business” pragmatically in areas of global significance. “Space is obviously no longer part of that,” said one western diplomat.
Washington last month decided to revoke export licences for technology goods that can be used militarily by Russia and to refuse to extend new ones. Washington is also considering new restrictions on the export of high-tech equipment to develop Russia’s energy resources.
Moscow’s move against the ISS came in the form of a rejection of a US request to use the station beyond 2020. The ISS, jointly maintained by several countries, has been continuously manned by rotating missions for more than 13 years and is used for research, some of which is considered vital for further space exploration.
The move over the rocket motors comes after SpaceX, the space venture of Elon Musk, founder of Tesla Motors, asked a federal court to bar the ULA from buying RD-180 motors. SpaceX said the purchases breached US sanctions against Mr Rogozin, who is also head of Russia’s space programme. SpaceX, which already carries out some launches of less sensitive satellites for the US government, does not use Russian engines and would like to break into launching the most sensitive satellites.
ULA said neither it nor NPO Energomash, its Russian supplier, had been made aware of any restrictions. But, if reports of the move were accurate, they affirmed that SpaceX’s “irresponsible actions” had created “unnecessary distractions, threatened US military satellite operations, and undermined [the US’s] future relationship with the International Space Station”.
“We are hopeful that our two nations will engage in productive conversations over the coming months that will resolve the matter quickly,” ULA said.
ULA added that it could switch to a second vehicle – Boeing’s Delta rocket – which used US-built motors and could meet all its customers’ needs. It also had a two-year supply of RD-180 motors “to enable a smooth transition to our other rocket”.
Mr Thompson said the US military strongly favoured using ULA for its most sensitive launches because of its flawless record of putting satellites safely into orbit. Most other rocket systems continue to suffer regular launch failures that destroy vehicle payloads.
“The Ukraine crisis has made policy makers reflect on the wisdom of relying on Russia for any type of lift requirements, either manned or unmanned,” Mr Thompson said.
Three astronauts – one American, one Russian and one Japanese – were due to leave the ISS in the early evening on Tuesday US eastern time to return to earth. They were due to land near Dzhezkazgan in Kazakhstan. A further three astronauts – one American, one Russian and one German – are due to blast off for the space station from Kazakhstan on May 28.
The Russian segment of the ISS can exist independently from the US one, but the US segment cannot exist independently from the Russian one
- Dmitry Rogozin, Russia deputy prime minister
Assuming Russia does not reconsider, its decision on the ISS could strengthen China, which aims to have its own space station by 2020 and is currently excluded from the ISS – chiefly because of opposition from the US.
Mr Rogozin said Moscow would not impose sanctions of its own, and would not obstruct the work of US astronauts. However, he called the US an “unreliable” technology partner and said the government was therefore seeking to intensify work with other countries.
Roscosmos, the Russian space agency, is due to present new plans for space exploration to parliament. Mr Rogozin said it was looking to redirect funds from manned space flight to other, more promising areas and had been advised to seek co-operation with Asian countries.
Russia also threatened to switch off 11 GPS ground stations on its territory unless the US agrees to its request to establish a similar station for its own satellite position system Glonass in the US. The GPS ground stations would be suspended from June 1 and switched off on September 1 if a bilateral working group failed to reach consensus on the Glonass issue, Mr Rogozin said.
GPS, on which services such as navigation and mapping apps rely, would still work as its satellites continue to operate. But it would lose accuracy because the ground stations help correct the satellite data.
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Most European countries are far more 'freer', mature, and have some Class than the US.
US's propaganda machinery has creatd this illusion that the US is the 'leader of the free world'.
My friend, I think you probably have better things to do than reply to the flack being directed at you by folks who clearly loathe your country. Why you should give a rodent's rectum if they do escapes me. My father taught me long ago.. "Never be seen wrestling with a pig. You'll just get dirty and the pig will enjoy it." :-)
@Clearsight777
To remove the froth from your lips post-rant, withdraw your hanky from your pocket, bring it to your lips, and gently dab up the froth. (Gently! We don't want you to hurt yourself..) THERE! Now isn't that better. ;-)
Exactly who or what gave the USA the title of leader of the free world? The USA has always been and will always be the leader in its own corporate dominated interests only. It is not the leader of the free world nor is it the worlds policeman. Having lived for a long time in the USA I can truthfully state that the US population is constantly bombarded with TV, school, politicians making the statement it is the best and most free country in the world. Oh really! What about Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Holland. It is far far from being the best country in the world. Sickening hypocracy.
@Harald Buchmann | May 14 10:14am .
Your posts hit the nails on the head. We all know that Yats got to where he is due to US Neocons' machiavellian turns, starring State Dept. Asst. Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador to Kiev Pyatt, smoothed along by $5 billion of our tax dollars - if not more.
Yats has turned out to be another bombastic John Kerry – does he now think that they’re of equal stature? The usurper “leading” Ukraine never fails to publicly upbraid Russia for the pickle that they’re in. What an egomaniac. Unelected Yats takes to calling Russian speaking Ukrainians “terrorists”, sicking jets, helicopters, tanks on them.
The Maidan coup came about with armed protesters taking over government buildings as well.
Meanwhile, with an educated citizenry, blessed with a wealth of resources, Russia will never be a laggard. I'll bet on that.
@Raps: how is one part of the world "Free"? Ever tried to get a visa for Europe if you are East Asian? Then you will realize how unfree the West is. Ever tried to post Al Qaida views online? Then you'll see how unfree Western internet is. It's all a matter of perspective, one is supporting one side, the other supporting the other. The West has killed more civilians in the 21st century than any other world region. Hope this will put you in perspective a little bit.
I agree with some below comments, US needs to grow up and have some 'mature' diplomacy.
If the Free World doesn't protect these countries now; when will they?
I am not against Russia but bullying weaker countries because you can is unacceptable!
The US, leader of the free world should lead. Now is the time!
Still, for all its warts, Britain is a beautiful country with an absolutely gorgeous countryside - from Penzance to the Isle of Skye, and from New Quay to Grimsby - and absolutely lovely people. It was my home for 10 years, and I deeply miss my friends there and the beauty of the countryside (get out of the cities, find a place in the countryside, and enjoy the exceptional beauty of your country!). It hurt me to leave.. I just couldn't find a way to stay without being poor when I retired!
@ the rest of the thread contributors...
At any rate, no one needs to instruct me in my own country (America's) faults. I know them better than my foreign friends can, and most educated Americans do as well. We do have a capacity for self-reflection and self-criticism as a nation. When we act upon that, we improve our country and our people's well-being. It's worth noting, though I did not vote for him, only about 12% of our population is African American, and a man of colour has been elected TWICE to the highest office in the land.
uncle John has a mail man called Alfred that heard from Joe's niece Jeannick that the comment section in the FT sometimes late in the night is filled with incredible long stories about Britain supplied by someone that does no longer lives there and questions if is there a perfect country? "
Jeezzz your weed is goooood !
Also, according to the WHO the US spent more on health care per capita ($8,608) and as percentage of its GDP (17.2%), than any other nation in 2011.
But, of 17 high-income countries studied by the National Institutes of Health in 2013, the US had the
lowest life expectancy, but, the highest or near-highest prevalence of infant mortality, heart and lung disease, sexually transmitted infections, adolescent pregnancies, injuries, homicides, and disability.
Probably not among those earning a "proper professional income" though.
And don't forget nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision - in prison, on parole or on probation (source: NAACP).
I agree with your "rant"
I have just come back ( what a mistake!) after 30 years out of the UK and everything you say about it is true.
I'm privileged to have any number of British friends who I know also agree wholeheartedly with my "rant." I'm gratified that you enjoyed it.
But I wonder if it's really fair to suggest the US is "making trouble between Europe and Russia"? The US is as often regaled, along with Russia, China and others, with quite florid EU rhetoric regarding Europe's "normative power" and civilizational expectations of others. The EU holds itself up as a model to others - Europe's moral giftedness is self-professed. Europe lectures the rest of the world endlessly on the importance of subjecting any and all disputes to international law (or probably preferably to the European Court of Justice and the EU's human rights tribunals in The Hague). How can Europe expect to have any credibility with anyone when repeated fundamental violations of public international law - namely the inviolability of territorial sovereignty of states - see a European response that is the rough equivalent of scratching themselves and passing gut wind? London alone could strangle Russian finance by halting underwriting of the bonds of Russian firms! But it would cost concerns in the City money... In the face of a flagrant violation of the territorial integrity of a European state Europe has to respond in a fashion that hurts the aggressor, else return to the 19th c with the understanding that European security is now an illusion.
"I found that listening to a British persons observations on anything American invariably put me in mind of the impressions of a dog that is watching television."
@Joe Johnson
"-One in four American believe that the sun revolves around the earth according to a recent American Science Foundation study.
-57% of Republican don’t believe in evolution according to a Pew research poll."
Discuss.
Maybe world leaders should actually focus on some real issues like radical Islam.
I don't understand the seemingly widespread belief that China and Russia are natural buddies who will rule space together. They almost went to war in 1969...and this was when they were Communist allies! China has been reverse engineering Russian tech for years and will outclass them soon in their own technology. Russia ruining its relationship with Europe will only lead to greater dependence on China as a market for natural resources, with Russia eventually becoming a de-facto Chinese vassal.
Except for perhaps US/Canada, countries with long land borders don't have a great history of getting along well. The winner here will be India, who will get cheap space launches from competing Russian and US interests.
@johnsreid
That is to be expected. Par for the course. They always go back to the same "Standard Operating Procedure". At one time, they only used it in Latin America. It has been so successful that they are now introducing it to Europe.
The problem with using Western mercenaries in Ukraine is that these guys are doing it for the money - by definition. And in order to spend that money, you have to stay alive - obvious I would have thought. Now Ukraine is not the same as Congo, Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq and many other "theatres".
http://www.busines...armies-2012-2?op=1
The Russian have thousands of people in Ukraine - including police and army - who are on their side. They speak the local language and know everyone going back 4 generations. On the other hand, everyone knows that the Americans are there for the short-term. Frankly, I cannot wait for some of these guys to be paid to flip or to get kidnapped so that we can hear their stories on Youtube. I would love to know who was shooting protesters and police in Maidan.
The locals are being uncooperative, and democracy needs to be managed, if necessary with the help of mercenaries.
@So Out of There!
I agree with 100% of your rant. Bravo!
I am sure you are one of those who think that the USA should look after its own people first. The best way to do so is by not trying to make trouble between Europe and Russia. The Russians want to do business with Europe and the vast majority of Europeans want to do likewise. There is no reason why the USA should want to sit on the valves sending gas to Europe through Ukraine.
Meanwhile in space some poor astronauts are wondering if they will be home for Christmas 2020. They have been reassured that the deluded megalomaniac in the Kremlin will have been replaced by then and no worries!
There are few things more tedious than listening to (or reading) non-US nationals holding forth anything to do with the US. I spent 10 years living and working in Britain. I escaped last year to make and keep a proper professional income for a change and avoid the guaranteed old aged poverty that was coming my way when if I stayed. While I miss many dear friends there I enjoyed over the years, I found that listening to a British persons observations on anything American invariably put me in mind of the impressions of a dog that is watching television. The pooch surely sees colour and motion, but has not a chance of understanding what he is seeing.
Britain has fallen so far so fast over the last century that it has developed an entire national discourse of impending American decline as a salve to national pride. It's obvious to any American that spends any time there, and it's frankly pitiable. Britain's national media (especially Auntie) clearly have a charter to make Britons feel good about being British - and routinely perform a hatchet job on anything American. Folks, I'm an economic refugee FROM your country. Do please work your own problems, not Americas problems - real or imagined.
One in six British households has no person living within, aged 18 to 64, them that have EVER held a job. No one in the country except perhaps City of London bankers and NHS medical professionals is paid a proper professional wage. A pound sterling has no more purchasing power in Britain than a dollar does in the US and people are taxed 22% up to GBP37K or so and 40% on anything over. People must be punished for having the temerity to make a lower middle class income. Petrol was GBP1.4 per litre when I left. Council taxes on my rented house were GBP1700 per year. GBP450 a month to the National Insurance. The housing stock is among the oldest, smallest, most shabby in Europe and it costs 6 to 8 times the average annual wage. I'm kicking myself for not selling the cardboard box my refrigerator was packed in. I could have taken it to London and sold it for GBP50K easily. :-) Your idle classes are legion in number and your taxation of your otherwise hard working people is putative. You call this "fairness." As the generation with defined benefit pensions slowly become deceased, the next generation faces the spectre of mass old-age poverty.
When you talk to Mr. Joe Permanently-idle-on-benefits and ask him why he doesn't get a job he say "I can't be bothered, mate." I'd hear this and think to myself, "You can't speak English either, son. To do so you'd have to occasionally close your mouth and form a consonant. The once proud British Navy has no aircraft carrier. You are relying upon a defence pact with France. The last war France won outright was the war of Spanish Succession. You trashed your formerly excellent system of polytechnics that once trained British youth in useful skills that commanded reasonably high wages into "universities" featuring degrees in "media studies"..
Look, my British friends, you are perfectly lovely people, but you've been very badly governed for a very long time and if anyone has squandered the national wealth on destructive socialism it's Britain. You definitely have plenty of your own problems to adequately concern you. And since you increasingly cannot project force abroad, you have no real reason to much concern yourselves with "abroad".. You can tell yourselves whatever you like, but you can't fool those of us who have lived among you for a decade or more. My screen name here is not an accident... So what do you say? Instead of trying to irritate your American allies with ignorable sniping of dubious to no relevance to their lives, views or outlooks - why not roll up the sleeves and dig in to start fixing Britain. Stiff upper lip! Musn't grumble....
@Alfred Nassim You are right both the Americans and the Russians operate a capitalist system. The American system, and most of Western countries - including Japan - have an open system, including rule-of-law and freedom of speech - that allows for innovation to take place. The Russian capitalist system benefits 110 individuals and appeases nearly 50% of the population that are still bureaucrats. Do not expect much innovation in such system.
Thank you for the information. I know a bit about it as I have two nephews over there who went to places like Williams College, Amherst College, Chicago Law School and Harvard Business School. I know that well-off parents game the system to "fill in the boxes". Kids have to do "voluntary" work and similar pretend activities. May the greatest hypocrite win!
I am just trying to point out how messed up the system over there is. They are profoundly ignorant about other cultures and think that is a badge of honour.
The Russians are very different. They believe in reinforcing success and letting failure wilt. In the military, successful units get the reinforcements, for example. NATO does not take a Darwinian approach. The same applies in education. If you like, the Russians are the Capitalists and the Americans the Socialists. Forget about the rhetoric.
"American Dependency: The Soup Line is Open"
http://www.shtfpla...e-is-open_05082014
The real scandal about US public schooling is not only poor educational outcomes, but their cost. It would amaze many British readers to learn that the cost of a day school in New York is half that of a boarding school like Eton, Harrow, Winchester or Stowe.
"They Spend WHAT? The Real Cost of Public Schools"
http://www.cato.or...ost-public-schools
"The newspaper's sources claim the school teaches its kindergarteners in rat-infested trailers and has movies playing daily for all grades, while Sills (the principal) barely ever shows up"
http://www.dailyma...ke-belle-ball.html
Personally, I think these schools are designed to teach kids _not_ to think for themselves. It is so much easier to control non-thinking people. The elites of America can always import smart people from India and China with the help of the H1B program.
I guess they will now send out a RFP ("Request for Proposals") to the Chinese asking them how to replace these engines.
Yes, the brain-damaged Bush seems to have plucked the expression from Mussolini. Fine ideological pedigree.
- US sudents are14th in reading,17th in science and 25th in math among the developed countries.
-The US is 34th in infant mortality and 24th in life expectancy among the developed countries
- The US has the the highest health care costs among the developed countries.
- The US has the highest rate of gun-related injuries among the developed countries.
- The US has the highest rate of youth homicides and suicides among the developed countries.
- The US is near the bottom in income equality among the developed countries.
- The US is near the bottom near the bottom among the developed nation in quality of its infrastructure (D+ rating by American Society of Civil Engineers).
-An American family at the 20th percentile of the income distribution makes significantly less money than a similar family in Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland or the Netherlands.
-One in four American believe that the sun revolves around the earth according to a recent American Science Foundation study.
-57% of Republican don’t believe in evolution according to a Pew research poll.
-Less than one-third of elementary and high school students showed proficiency in geography according the the US Education Department in 2011
-Americans scored second to last on overall geographic knowledge, trailing Canada, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan and Sweden," according to a study by National Geographic.
-A recent study from Princeton University argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.
Of course in the end it is 'The economy'... and that one is not heading for space in Russia. Already prior to the little czar's show of the magical 4 olympic rings and his land grabbing in Crimea the economy started looking more than a failed submarine. Let alone building that they cannot even build ships. The economic failure can be traced back to the Kremlin. The systems is build and set up to fail. More to come sooner than later.
@Njegos
You are not poking fun at Bush, or were you?
I can't help noticing here and elsewhere that the American public was not prepared for the fact that their space program - and military satellites - are largely dependent on Russian engines. The Big Lie is always so much more effective than lots of little ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
Another obvious one that is going to really hurt is when they find out that fracking does not replace the decline of conventional oil production. The fact that there is a humongous figure for "proven reserves" is almost irrelevant. What counts is "production". There is nothing that is going to begin to replace the declines on the horizon for places like Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Algeria and so on. What is the American public going to do when they can no longer motor to work?
It is only by knowing the energy background to these conflicts that one can understand what is really going on. America is desperate to grab Russia's resources. They thought that Ukraine was the gateway.
Russians will now will forge close ties with Asia, a region that is much closer to it culturally and politically, and holds a much greater economic promise than the US can offer. The US should not be surprised, in the simplest terms, what goes around comes around.
On the other hand, similarly to Russia's reaction to sanctions, including its re-focus on building out its domestic economy across the financial sector, manufacturing and science, US will find a way to build its own engines and whatever else might be required.
So in itself, this exchange of sanctions means little in isolation. However, this is one of the symptoms of a much bigger problem. The US is failing to recognize that the sociopolitical and economic landscape of the world around it has evolved. The emergence of the economic and political powerhouses such as China and India, along with Brazil and Russia, calls for a different sort of political engagement on part of the US. To put it bluntly, the US' propensity to flex its muscle does it no favors in terms of dealing with those parts of the world which have now grown its own muscle. The US' habitually dictatorial approach is rapidly loosing its relevance and prompts a resistance which is bound to meaningfully backfire economically and politically over the next decade.
Other things aside, the potential impact on the USD, particularly its weakening status as the reserve currency and as the 'medium of exchange' deserve some serious forward looking thinking. A number of countries are already transacting in their own currencies. Simply put, should this trend accelerate, the US stands to loose the phenomenal level of flexibility in its monetary policy which it has enjoyed thus far, which made the QE possible largely without hurting the currency. For a country with a high levels of external debt, and for the investors who hold Treasuries as part of their defensive strategies, this will have significant ramifications. This is the kind of thing the politicians need to be thinking about.
Russia will lose this one as they lost the last, economically.
This is a gift to Obama and NASA. Expect a variation on JFK's "man on the moon speech" after Sputnik was launched.
"I therefore ask the Congress, above and beyond the increases I have earlier requested for space activities, to provide the funds which are needed to meet the following national goals:"
Fill in the goals as your desires dictate.
You hit the nail on the head. The real problem is that we are so arrogant. We think we have all the answers so why even bother to put ourselves in someone else's shoes? The burden is always on the locals affected by our hare-brained interventions to understand us, not the other way around. The result is that we are totally uncomfortable with and even feel threatened by people who don't think like us. No wonder our outlook is converging with that of Mussolini "O con noi o contro di noi".
I have commented on this elsewhere and I think it goes back to the American idea, a variation on an old colonial maxim, that inside every foreigner in an American trapped and screaming to be liberated. It was expressed in less vulgar fashion during the British Empire of course: the natives yearned to be proud and civilised British subjects.
The problem is that our leaders just don't seem to learn from their mistakes. They consider themselves exempt from the hard lessons of history. Doesn't that mean our democracy has failed? I continue to expect the worst.
Yes, on the subject of Space and the Cosmos, there is no real political opposition left in the Russian democratically elected legislative body.
Ohh, John Kennedy where are you ? We need your determination and vision that got us to the moon.
But I repeat, that's really not important. US commentators may be surprised, but this "revelation" doesn't matter in the least. The fact sensible people must address is that the US have supported the imposition of a seriously suspect regime in Kiev, which has proven itself vehemently and violently opposed to ethnic Russian elements in the east and south of the country, which is, of course, the probable reason for US support. But this Kiev attitude is why these areas are so scared of the "Yats" government, and have acted as they did. For those who still doubt, and, happily, there are few of you left outside the editorial board of the FT, try to put yourselves in the shoes of ethnic Russians after the pronouncements of the Kiev government when it took control.
And then ask yourselves, after the approval by Kiev of bounty hunters to sort out pro Russian "subversives", whether you would take any course other than that adopted by the ethnic Russians or, indeed, the Russian speakers in the east. Even if you support an utterly anti Russian posture, you must be able to recognise why people in east Ukraine are terrified of Kiev. If you can't see that, then IMHO you can only be in total denial.
There is plenty of opportunities, but there should be partnership. Russia bent backward to support US paranoia against China. Seemingly it is not enough....
Russia has no choice but to try to find feet around. Earlier last year “The New York times reported” : “The United States has stations (GPS) around the world, but none in Russia.” : http://www.nytimes...py-fears.html?_r=0
This is just simple misleading time after time, after time……
Russia will never join NATO. NATO is an American-run alliance of international scofflaws. What interest would Russia's have in ruining relationships with most of the Muslim world, NATO's favourite target?
The Junta in Kiev has not wasted any time appointing the son of the US vice president to an important role. How else can you explain that?
"Hunter Biden, son of US VP Joe Biden, is joining the board of directors of Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer. "
http://rt.com/busi...on-ukraine-company
These sanctions by Russia are clearly intended to riposte the Americans without in any way harming the Europeans. Sadly, the people running the EU are in league with the Americans against their own citizens - for example, by blocking the construction of South Stream which bypasses Ukraine.
I note that a lot of readers seem to think that NASA only has to flick a few switches and it would be the same organisation as that which sent men to the moon. That is history and was only achieved thanks to the large number of German scientists imported after WW2. Most engineering students in the USA are Asians. Smart American want to study finance or medicine - government sinecures.
http://www.nasa.go...ages/station/main/
The Russian Soyuz craft is both ISS lifeboat and the return craft.
(A Chinese knockoff was used by Sandra Bullock to return home in the movie Gravity -- the Chinese appreciate good work. Even if all the electronics go out and ground comms is lost you can still use the periscope to align the craft correctly and fire rockets at the right time to land in one of several emergency
areas. If need be you can even do a ballistic reentry. Lovely design)
Maybe NASA can finally give MOOSE (Man Out of Space Easiest) a test drive. Invented here in Philadelphia by GE, we never could find someone crazy enough to try it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOOSE
@ Bob from North Carolina
@kenezen
The decision to not develop a successor to the Space Shuttle was made before Obama took office. The cost of this bipartisan false economy is now evident.
@atomi pommi
@ Einar BB
The private space industry here in the U.S. presently can launch a maximum payload of 1000 pounds. That is one-sixtieth (sixtieth, not sixteenth) of the launch capacity of the Apollo moon rocket of the late 1960s. If developing the latter sort of capacity is to be left to the private space industry, we may be waiting a very long time.
You couldn't have missed the point more effectively had you assumed this page showed the TV schedules. The world requires co-operation. Superpowers require it more than most.
The Sierra Nevada Corporation has a seven-seat, winged space vehicle. Although it resembles the old shuttles, it is much smaller. Elon Musks Space X and Boeing also have advanced designs.
Cold war redux and the US will win - again.
In any case, the US is without any shuttle or ship and Russia has this technology and capacity! Russia is not Saudi Arabia!
George Bush is an example of machismo and so Goldman Sachs is an example of corruption
Just wondering how a country that cannot even build his own war ships is going to build itself a future in space?